Hey folks,
We have an entire show tomorrow on what pollsters did wrong this cycle. That will include us, too. Have to be fair.
Don't get me wrong. I'm VERY happy with our performance this year, but just about everywhere, I'm noticing something. FYI, a map for the Election 2024 Public Polling Project is getting built and like 2020 will link to all the crosstabs, etc.
But look at this.
Here's Florida. We're by far the most accurate poll. BUT... as was the case in Pennsylvania, Michigan, North Carolina and National (didn't matter), our share of the third party vote was too high, even in the likely voter sample and not just the registered and unlikely voter sample.
Notice the difference between the President and the Senate. The margins are correct, or very close, BUT (again) the presidency's shares are too low while the Senate is basically right on the money.
Why?
We didn't ask about third parties in the Senate. That, admittedly, was an oversight. Yep, we screwed that up. There are third parties and we didn't include them.
Obviously I'm upset with myself for this, but it is informative. So, I went and checked the H2H without thirds and sure enough those vote shares are closer to the actual result than those with the full ballot.
I'm not exactly sure why this is the case, except to say that the new-age vote data collection modes, i.e. text-to-online and P2P interviews, have lower vote shares than online markets. This is a big observation for me.
We'll keep digging and keep you all posted.
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On "What Are The Odds?" with Baris and Baris on Monday, @RobertBarnes detailed four determining factors that have been predictive in midterms outcomes for the U.S. Senate.
"So on paper, the Senate should not be up for grabs. And when two of these four factors that I'll identify are not present in the Senate election in the midterms, then in fact eighty percent of the time the incumbent party does not lose four or more seats, and is often as likely to gain seats as it is to lose seats—when the map looks like this and when two of these four factors are not present."
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Watching people attempt to "unskew" polls conducted by all walks of this industry—ranging from Nate Cohn at The New York Times to Spencer Kimball at Emerson College to Tim Malloy at Quinnipiac—all to deny Donald Trump's gains against Joe Biden with various voting blocs, is more than a little sad.
The slew of recent polls over two weeks—to include no less than four today alone—have simply confirmed prior findings published from other pollsters who have previously been "unskewed". That includes your's truly and our work at BIG DATA POLL, Mark Penn at Harvard University, Patrick Ruffini at Echelon Insights, and many others.
I'm temped to equate this with an Occam's razor-like situation. But this debate is more about likelihood than simplicity.
Here's the Presidential Vote Preference Trend for Biden v. Trump going back to August 2020. The Public Polling Project did not begin asking the Rematch Question for 2024 until September 2021. However, we can still make some pretty important and interesting observations.